Folks, my ability to connect with the Left is becoming more and more dicey. The ones that aren’t insane are slowly creeping to the Right (which doesn’t mean they should be Conservatives, but is a relief), and then there’s the insane ones. I would like to say that the insane ones are a loud minority, but I think that’s not entirely true. I think it’s a rigid subset (Leftist women who are/were radical feminists who have been brainwashed by the media and have become radicalized jihadists for so-called Liberal values), and it’s not small. I don’t think it’s a majority, by any means, but it’s certainly the only part of the Left getting any air time.
Y’all know I’m not Christian. I was HORRIFIED at Lemon and his cohorts invading a church service. I don’t have to be Christian to know that’s a no-go. When I visit someone else’s house of worship, I follow *their* rules, not mine. If I’m unwilling to do so, I don’t go. Churches are the one place I consider to actually be a place of sanctuary. That is time-honored and long-standing, and goes far beyond the United States. Watching children cowering in the aisles, it was awful. But those folks, they were true Christians in my personal opinion, because their response to Lemon’s invasion was to pray. That part, at least, was nice to see.
I’ve been watching people on the Left go crazy in Minnesota. Blocking traffic, protesting in roadways, stopping ICE and other LEO vehicles, these things are wrong but I can at least kind of understand them. They’re “normal” protest tactics. I disagree (and for what it’s worth, I have *always* disagreed with any protest that blocks roadways, schools, LEOs, or hospitals, don’t care which side is doing it) but that’s between the protesters and the LEOs. But stopping everyday citizens and demanding papers (the protesters, not ICE who have the right to do so under many circumstances), requiring people to chant slogans (“I hate ICE!” and “I am not a Nazi!” are two I’ve seen on TikTok of late), etc… Why is this being allowed? WTF folks? That is literally what the Gestapo were doing. What ICE is doing is NOT what the Gestapo were doing. I’m aghast.
Mr. Magoo (my name for the heavy set Leftist gentleman who’s “protecting his neighborhood” with a firearm in Minneapolis) originally had my disdain because I thought he was breaking local laws (ie it’s illegal in Minneapolis to open carry a long rifle, which is what I thought he had), but turns out he’s perfectly within his rights to do what he’s doing. Therefore I’m fine with him, even if I think he looks a bit silly “protecting” his very white, very not-bothered-by-ICE neighborhood each day.
Which brings me to 2A stuff. Folks, there’s a lot of Leftists right now going out and purchasing firearms. There’s a LOT of noisy Conservatives complaining and bitching about that. I say to those Conservatives: shut the fuck up. I don’t CARE why the Leftists are finally exercising their right to keep and bear arms. They are doing so, now leave it alone. Encourage them to learn how to use their firearm safely, explain the basic rules to them, offer to take them to a range to practice on the regular. They are new 2A people. It’s none of your business WHY they are new 2A people. Doesn’t fucking matter. They think we’re nuts for the reasons we carry; we think they’re nuts for the reasons they carry. It doesn’t matter; they’re carrying. Time to step up and put your values into action. I am all for everyone carrying who wants to, and if we have new folks doing it, GREAT. At the end of this bullshit in Minnesota, they will still have their guns, and will probably continue to carry, and that makes them one step closer to being rational human beings. They’re also extremely unlikely to be vocally anti-2A while holding a handgun or rifle. The correct answer to, “I’m going to go buy a gun for protection!” is “Great, here’s the name and number of a fantastic trainer who’ll show you the ropes. Use it.”
About Charlie’s Voice: if men want women to be “real women” today, then they need to start being “real men” first. Yes, first. Because that’s LITERALLY the basics about being a man. You get to go first. Do you know when I started wearing skirts and cooking and doing home-bound stuff? When my man stood up and made it safe and comfortable for me to do so. Before that, I was working and trying to keep myself alive and healthy, and I didn’t have time to fuck around with peasant skirts and home cooked food. You want me to be a woman, then start by being a man. I’m really lucky that I have two very manly men in my life, who make it safe for me to be the woman that I am. They also support my decisions about myself, whether I want to exercise or work or stay home and write, or whatever. They make it safe for me to take the softer route, and I’m thankful for that. I was well on my way to being a hard-ass old woman, and instead, I’m a happy, healthy, productive and softer lady.
Ally:
You DO know what to write about. Everything in this post is pure gold.
The disconnect with the left? A lot has to do with the mental mindset of the average leftist/modern day liberal. (Classic liberals and the modern left are two very different things.) Their narrative/cause/issue/politics/religion… whatever has become such an ingrained part of them that any challenge is considered a personal attack on their very being. Flexible minds are needed, and those with them are moving away from the far right. Unfortunately, that means the far left is living in and even more enclosed and narrow echo chamber.
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As to the 2A stuff, agree totally. If the folks on the left want to carry, and do so in a law abiding and responsible manner, sign me up for helping them to do so. If they want to arm themselves to threaten ICE or other LEOs… I will report them as a threat. Curiously, not a lot of anti-gun folks who start shooting remain anti-gun. I do not care what color your hair is (or skin), or what candidate you support. Shoot well and safely, and you are my friend.
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Finally, you are correct on men. No point in trying to get women to act a bit more like traditional woman, if you are not going to act like a traditional man. Take care of your woman, and your family first, and you might be surprised to see them start taking care of you.
As always, cogent, articulate, and on point.
Re invading places of worship: well said. I would add the criminals were lucky (or perhaps had planned well) to be doing this in a state where churchgoers are unlikely to be armed. In some other states they might have ended up perforated.
Re 2nd Amendment — is it really the case that “lots” of conservatives are complaining about that? I could believe some do, especially those who don’t understand the moral principles behind gun ownership. But as CBMTTek said, if they intend to be law abiding, welcome. My concern is that at least a portion of them explicitly stated an intent to commit crimes.
I’m reminded of the precedent of Operation Blazing Sword. As I recall, Erin Palette was quite surprised to find out that she got a tsunami of support from “traditional gun owners” and instructors, when she set out to promote gun ownership and training in the Queer community.
There’s also the stereotype that “as soon as blacks start to buy guns, the right will start supporting gun control”. This stereotype is advanced by the left, because it reflects their views, not those of the right. Remember, after all, that the Democratic party is the pro-slavery, victim disarmament, government control over people party.
I would say that perps never invade places where they’re likely to get perforated. That’s not part of their agenda. Thugs always choose soft targets. That’s why I make my family and my neighborhood as hard a target as I can.
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Re 2A, yes… a lot of conservatives. See TCK below. *shrug* There are also a lot of people like me, who don’t care about your reasons for supporting 2A. Just learn, that’s all. If that’s the first step to learning how to think again, how to be aware… then so be it. I want more 2A people, not less.
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And yes, I have many alphabet soup friends who were shocked at the absolute joy they were met with when they went to purchase firearms. They were referred to good trainers, ranges, and clubs where others were also 2A friendly. All of those who purchased firearms during the “last big scare” with Trump 1.0 have continued to be happy, healthy, well trained firearms owners who support 2A. They started out scared and lonely. They learned there’s little to be frightened of, and that there are lots of folks from a wide variety of walks of life who are happy gun owners.
For not knowing what to write about; you sure said quite a bit! All of it is 100% on target! My concern is where are the rest of us “reasonable people”?
some of us “reasonable” people are out in the shop welding up a bulldozer.. heh.
many are quietly watching and preparing.
unfortunately many more are too wrapped up in bread and circuses and not willing to do anything to help the country..
It’s not a happy time right now, curby. I get it. But I can’t fix the country. I can’t even fix my neighborhood. What I can fix is my family, so that’s what I’m doing. 🙂 I can’t spend all my time being terrified for the States. It’s just too big, and there’s nothing I can do (beyond what I’m already doing). No sense stressing too much over what I have no power over. Time to start just working on the things I do have power over.
in my round about way thats MY point.
people are programmed tolive in constant fear over everything.
work on you and yours and what you can fix.
I think there’s a lot more reasonable people than unreasonable. The problem is that reasonable people don’t sell newspapers. They never have. We’re not interesting. We don’t do things that get news time. We’re the silent majority, most of whom I’d say voted for Trump and hopefully will vote for JD when his time comes.
Oh? So I need shut the fuck up because I’m worried that people who spent YEARS ON END declaring their desire and intent to MURDER MY FAMILY are now arming themselves for that exact purpose?
Go fuck yourself.
*Admin hat on* TCK: First and foremost, the last line is out of line and is beyond the “don’t be a dick” rule. Stop it. *Admin hat off*
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Here’s my response, however. Freedom is not safe. It has never been safe. If you want safe, go Left and be a commie or a socialist. That’s what they preach. Freedom means freedom for all, and our Founders were exceptionally clear about that. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED. Period, end of story. They knew. You cannot preach “rules for thee but not for me” and be taken seriously, or be considered conservative. And yes, that IS a hill I will die on.
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The Second Amendment is not a suggestion. It is not something meant to make you stop being worried. It’s job is to stop the government from regulating arms. Our country is not a giant safe space, or at least it isn’t right now and Trump is helping us get it back. If you try taking away 2A rights from half the population just because you’re worried (or frightened, or even terrified), then you’re just like them, and you’re not conservative. 2A is one of the bedrock topics of the Republican Party. For years, the Right has been (correctly imo) screaming that any infringement is wrong, and that the concerns of the rabid Left over what we “might” do is idiotic. THEY are worried, frightened, terrified, panicked. And we have (again, correctly imo) told them that their feelings are just that… feelings. Go feel them, fine, but your feelings don’t mean I have to change a damn thing.
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You don’t have to “shut the fuck up” if you’re worried. But you cannot attempt to take away people’s 2A rights just because you think they might do something bad. We don’t have thought crime in this country, remember?
Firstly, don’t be an asshole yourself first if you can’t take any heat back.
Secondly, civil rights don’t apply to mass murdering traitors and insurrectionists. Liberals have been VERY clear about that, so they don’t get to complain about being held to their own standard. If it’s ok for soulless, inhuman, demonrat filth to strip our rights away for not wanting to wear a diaper on our face, then its 100% ok for the rest of us to stop them from arming up to commit terrorist attacks against innocent Americans.
Thirdly, thank you for being upfront about how you’re not ever going to give up the gaslighting.
Fourthly, I’m not trying to take anyone’s rights because of what I feel they MIGHT do, I’m saying that monsters who have spent years upon years upon years brutalizing the innocent NEVER HAD THOSE RIGHTS TO BEGIN WITH. Civil rights belong only to those who uphold the Social Contract of Civilization. That’s why they’re called “civil rights.” Savage animals who spent their whole fucking lives breaking that contract to the harm of the innocent have permanently forfeited any and all claim to those rights applying to their grotesque selves. End of fucking story.
You’re gonna get yourself banned, and it won’t hurt my feelings any. Gun rights are not civil rights, they’re human rights and they can not legitimately be taken away.
Why don’t you go over to Miguel’s substack (https://miguelgg.substack.com/ if you don’t know already) and tell him that the Collectivos have a “human right” to be armed? Tell us how that works out for you.
I wasn’t actually planning on saying more after my comment on the snow post, but since I’m already here I guess I might as well. I’ll try to get my point across better this time, it should at least be less personally confrontational. You say that “THEY are worried, frightened, terrified, panicked” and that is your first and possibly most serious mistake. Never, ever, give the slightest bit of credence or respect to the crocodile tears of professional crybullies. They are not feeling these things (if they were scared in the least, then they would not spending every day harassing and threatening anyone who they think is ICE or a Trump supporter), they are making deliberate, malicious efforts at manipulation and emotional blackmail. Liberals always do this, it is literally the only move they have other than gaslighting, and when that fails, outright violence. I do not support their claim to civil rights because I know, with absolute certainly, that they will take those rights from me and everyone else who does not kneel to lick their jackboots the very first moment they can. I know this because every last one of them tells me this, gleefully, every single day.
They have spent years telling me I deserve to suffer and die because I don’t want to wear a face diaper or subject myself or my family to dangerous and unproven fake vaccines. They have spent years telling me I deserve to suffer and die because I don’t think children should be sexually mutilated and abused. Hell, they’ve spent years telling me I deserve to suffer and die because I want to be able to own the very same guns they themselves are now rushing out to buy.
I do not offer them the protections of the Social Contract because they have repeatedly broken it in the most grotesque and reprehensible of ways, and have spent years telling me to my face that they are going to take every one of those rights away from me and mine the moment they have the power to do so.
If you allow declared enemies of civilization to treat the Social Contract as a game of “we can punch you all we want and you can’t hit back” you will be beaten to death.
There’s a big difference between accepting that your enemy has rights and abilities, and cheering him on as he arms himself to fight and maybe kill you. If Ally is who she says she is, then these people are her enemy whether she likes it or not, just as they are my enemy and the enemy of all or most of the posters on here. I’ll cheer for them coming to their senses of course, but not this.
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This isn’t meant as a jab but reading a lot of Ally’s posts, I find it hard to consider you ‘right wing’ at all. A sort of disaffected, left libertarian, perhaps. Perhaps someone who is relatively compatible with a decent society, but very far from the political right.
ribeye: I have a firm belief (backed up by personal observations, though of course that’s a fairly small sample) that people who go to the trouble of owning firearms will very quickly either learn responsibility, or end up dead. That seems to be showing itself true in Minnesota at the moment, as well. If someone breaks a law, they should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But I will not even attempt or give the slightest credence to disarming only a portion of the population. Anyone who is doing that or wants to do that IS a part of the “gestapo” that the Left whinges on about.
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I didn’t take your comment as a jab. I have said, many times, that in any sane society I would be considered liberal. I am a fringe dweller under the conservative tent. I’m grateful that people have taken the time and patience to explain things to me, and help me educate myself. That said, there are a handful of things I am “fully conservative” on, such as 2A, freedom of speech, and fiscal stuff. When it comes to social things? I’m absolutely more left leaning. I’m not trying to paint myself as an expert or anything. I’m me, and what you see here is what you get in r/l.
the fact that you Allyson are willing to learn and listen is refreshing and awesome.
keep learning, keep writing. keep educating those we can reach
Thanks curby. I try to listen and learn all the time. Sometimes I get butthurt (as you’ve all seen recently). There are leftist things I cling to (and some of them are things I really just “don’t get” as being a problem, in any way). But I know that much of what I learned in my time on the Left was incorrect, and in many cases outright lies. I do my best to apply critical thinking at all times. Even after I get upset, though, I keep trying. Sometimes I just need to walk away a bit, and recircle the wagons. 🙂