Month: June 2023

Friday Feedback

It has been a busy week in the courts. Multiple cases heard before circuit courts. Supreme Court Opinions issued. Busy busy busy.

Hagar has been a bit busy, but I’ll see where her next article is.

We just learned about the State of Massachusetts deciding to make the state a “sensitive place”.

The other week, somebody asked for a review on some interesting caliber of ammunition. I was hoping J.Kb. was going to step up to the plate and write about it. I just don’t have any inclination to purchase a firearm in that caliber just to write a review about it.

Do you have any recommended sites to monitor for Second Amendment related legal or legislative events?

Does anybody want to hear about processing squirrels? I’m learning, slowly, how to flesh a squirrel hide. It is an interesting process that I’ve failed at four or five times now. Once I get past the fleshing part, I’ll be moving on to the process of tanning the hide.

EPA losses to The People

Government over stepping its bounds has been of interest to me for many years. I take notice when something comes past that is especially egregious. We talk about how long we’ve been fighting for our rights, this is the story of a couple that has been fighting the EPA since 2004.

Some of this is from memory, some is prompted by some of the cited sources in this case.

In 2004, the Sacketts purchased a 1/2 acre of land near Priest Lake in Idaho. This was their dream property, they were going to build their dream home there. Thier property was set back from the lake, with a road between them and the lake.

They got all the required permits and started construction. Part of that was site preparation. This included flinging in some areas that got boggy when it rained. There was no running water from their property to the lake. There was no standing water on their property.

They got big puddles when it rained.

Along came the EPA, who told them that they needed to get a permit from the EPA because they were erasing a federally protected wetland[xCite item=”FJZBX26N” pos=0]. Since they had not gotten a permit before starting the site preparation, the EPA found them in violation.

They were told to put the property back the way it was. If they did not, then they would be fined something like $10,000 per day. When they attempted to get a hearing to challenge the ruling, they were told “yes, but if you are found in violation, you will be held liable for the $10,000 per day fine.”

In other words, to challenge the ruling, the Sacketts would need to be prepared to pay all the outstanding fines.

They decided to fight this. The Pacific Legal Foundation took up their case.

Earlier this week, the Supreme Court found in their favor.

More coming tomorrow now that I have a better idea of why my citation engine is/was failing.

Meanwhile, feel free to read the article that irritated me enough to start another of my short articles on legal stuff:

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Massachusetts Bruen response spasm

Cam Edwards covered this Monday or Tuesday of this week. The Gun Owners Action League of Massachusetts is working on an analysis of the bill. I’ve not read it, I don’t want to read it.

If you live in Massachusetts, if you travel through Massachusetts, you need to be aware of the proposed law. Once it hits the courts, I’ll look at the cases.

Dude Stuff

According to my sources, “Dude” is non-gendered, so according to my sources this is not a sexist rant.

I’m an old fart. I do “dude stuff”. I’m no longer shocked when other people can do the same things I can do, but I do have certain expectations, and I’m continuously let down.

“Dude Stuff” is when the boss comes over to you and asks “Can you open this?” and shoves a taped up package at you. You are the dude, so you flick your wrist and a 3.49in blade pops open for you to cut the tape. The boss looks in shock at the “huge knife” and tries to figure out where it came from, so fast.

“Dude Stuff” is your daughter coming to you with a necklace, hopelessly tangled and twisted, knowing that the dude in her life will just fix it. And you do.

“Dude Stuff” is the dishwasher that is getting water flowing back into it from the sink. Knowing that there should be a check valve or something else to keep that from happening. Seeing the water flow into the dishwasher sump when a pot is emptied into the sink, but not when water is just running.

Oh, the discharge hose needs a blight ABOVE the outlet to keep the bad water from flowing downhill into the dishwasher.

“Dude Stuff” is going out to do a safety inspection on the roof rack that your child just installed and instantly seeing that the cross bolts aren’t tightened, looking for why they came from the factory like that, and knowing that the rack needs to be adjusted for size and knowing how to do that.

“Dude Stuff” means you get handed the Fitbit to change the band because they “couldn’t figure out how”.

All of these and 1000s more are “dude stuff”. It is that ability to look at something and know what should be done next. Or to know how to figure it out.


I was speaking with Hagar, and we were talking about the rape statistics in this country. This is something we’ve talked about before.

As I see it, there are three or four different types of rapists out there. The first is the “accidental” rapist. These are the situations where a man and a woman are interacting, and the situation is such that she only decides it was rape the next day. Those situations where she is a little too drunk to consent. It is the situation where she thought she was saying “no” and he didn’t hear “no” but “I’m not on any birth control.” He takes out his condom and thinks it is ok to proceed, while she doesn’t actually say anything, he should have just known.

Hagar inserts the “Yesterday it was ok, today it is rape” situation. Those situations where one of the two had a birthday and turned 18. They do the same thing after his birthday as they were doing before and suddenly, he’s guilty of statutory rape.

The next situation is what I call “One and done.” It is rape. The rapist should be caught and, when found guilty, properly punished. This is a horrific crime and should be treated as such. The difference is that after that one time, the rapist never rapes again. One rapist, one victim.

The final group is what I call “serial rapists”. These are the monsters that have raped somebody, decided they liked it and then rape more. One rapist, multiple victims.

It is my unfounded belief that these serial rapists are what account for the majority of victims.

It is no less horrific if a rapist only has one victim one time, or one victim multiple times, it is a crime for which proper punishment should be given.

These are the monsters that haunt people’s nightmares.


In a bar, a woman is speaking with her friends. A man walks up and quietly asks if he can buy her a drink. She looks him up and down and tells him to get lost. He leaves, rejected.

Shortly after, another man walks up. He’s carrying a drink for her. He hands it to her and talks her up. He doesn’t really take her simple brush-offs. She has a short relationship with him. Maybe as short as the one night.

She gets bitter and posts to social media about how all men are just creeps. How all they are interested in is her body, and she’s never found a man who wasn’t shallow and crass.

She’ll never find a good dude because it is the man who takes “no” for an answer and leaves that is much more likely to be the good man she is looking for rather than the one that held his ground.

The men and women of today are not going through the same dance as 50 years ago. What they are looking for is different from their parents. YOLO is something that happened in the past, but it was the unusual, not a life philosophy.

We aren’t bringing up our children to be able to do “Dude Stuff”. We are lucky if they can tie their own shoes. Not a joke. My grandson is likely to never have to tie his shoes. Even the shoes he has with laces are really Velcro.

Somewhere our society lost something small yet important. How to do “Dude Stuff”.

Tuesday Tunes

Thank you to everybody who clicked the like button or added a comment to my last post. It helps with the motivation.

I think there are about ten different songs I’ve listened to recently that have the same sort of theme. This happens to be one of the older ones.

Why are all these cases about “self-defense”?


B.L.U.F. What was supposed to be a short article regarding why we see “self-defense” in so many challenges turned into a 5000-word article covering the opening statements of the NFA hearings in 1934 plus random musings on yelling fire and other historical legal stuff.

If you get anything out of this, please at least click the like button. I’m having trouble justifying to myself the effort I’m putting into these articles.


I find myself increasingly troubled that so many cases rely on self-defense, or being part of an unorganized militia, or whatever, as a justification for the right to keep and bear arms. Just as the right to free speech doesn’t (or shouldn’t, anyway) depend on what you’re intending to be talking about, the right to bear arms shouldn’t depend on to what purpose you intend, so long as it’s lawful.
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Boris, you are correct. I agree that it is extremely irritating to hear, over and over again, that our rights are dependent on “self-defense” or being a member of the militia or “sporting purposes” and on and on and on.

This is a stepping stone. It took us a long time to get back to this level of Second Amendment protected rights.

Consider the testimony in Congress over the National Firearms Act.
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Are the courts balanced in amicus curiae?

According to one of the lawyers that speaks on Second Amendment rights, the policy of the courts on accepting amicus curiae from anybody is a rather recent policy change with the courts. It used to be that you had to show real reasons to be considered a friend of the court.

Of the hundreds of pages submitted to the Supreme Court in [xCite item=”U9EQ7W4I” pos=0] most are from amicus curiae submissions. In appeals, it is the same. There are the actual pleadings by the parties, and then there are all the amicus curia submissions.

In To be blunt, Bruen fails to adhere to even basic academic standards – P.J.C. I write about Patrick J. Charles. He submits amicus curiae briefings in many of these Second Amendment cases. The courts almost always grant him permission to submit.

He is just one guy. He doesn’t belong to any group. His claim to fame is that he has written a number of books advocating for infringing on the Second Amendment and calling anybody and everybody who thinks that the right to “keep and bear arms” gives an individual the right to keep and bear arms an idiot or worse.

It is very uncommon to see a person or entity submit a motion for leave to file an amicus brief and then to have the court reject it. When this, ORDER re: Motion for leave to file amicus brief. John Cutonilli’s motion to file an amicus brief is DENIED. [74] showed up in Celeb Barnett v. Kwame Raoul I needed to find out why.

The first question to ask is, “Who is John Cutonilli?” A quick Google search turns up “Cutonilli v. State of Maryland”. This is a reference to a case from 2015.
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United States v. Rahimi Petition for writ of certiorari

Recap

Prior to the Bruen opinion, the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals heard the case of United States V. Rahimi.
On June 8, 2022, just a few weeks before the Bruen opinion, the Circuit court affirmed Mr. Rahimi’s convection.

A federal grand jury indicted Rahimi for possession of firearms in violation of sections 922(g)(8) and 924(a)(2).1 Later, Rahimi pleaded guilty. At sentencing, the presentence investigation report (“PSR”) detailed Rahimi’s lengthy criminal history. Relevant to this appeal are the state charges that were pending against him for offenses that occurred from December 2019 to November 2020. Three pending state charges resulted from Rahimi’s use of a firearm in the physical assault of his girlfriend in December 2019,2 and another state charge arose from an aggravated assault with a deadly weapon of a different woman in November 2020. Rahimi objected to the PSR, arguing that the pending charges described relevant conduct to the instant offense such that the sentence for the instant federal offense should be ordered to run concurrently to the state sentences. The district court overruled the objection, adopted the PSR, and ordered the federal sentence to run consecutively to the pending charges because they were not relevant conduct. Rahimi appeals, arguing that the district court clearly erred by concluding the pending charges were not relevant conduct.

1) Rahimi moved to dismiss the indictment on the ground that section 922(g)(8) on its face violates the Second Amendment and the district court denied the motion. Rahimi appeals this decision but acknowledges that it is foreclosed by our finding precedent. United States v. McGinnis, 956 F.3d 747 (5th Cir. 2020), cert. denied, 141 S. Ct. 1397 (2021).
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Briefly, Rahimi was a bad dude, doing bad things. When he was arrested, he had a firearm. He had not been convicted of a crime. Along with all the state level charges brought against him, he was also charged as a prohibited person in possession of a firearm under §922(g)(8) and §924(a)(2).

The Circuit court had already ruled in 2020 on the exact question.

We again confront a Second Amendment challenge to a federal law prohibiting individuals subject to certain domestic violence protective orders from possessing firearms or ammunition for any purpose. 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(8). Appellant Eric McGinnis, convicted by a jury of violating § 922(g)(8), claims the statute is a facially unconstitutional restriction on his right to keep and bear arms. This court rejected a virtually identical challenge two decades ago in Judge Garwood’s landmark decision in United States v. Emerson, 270 F.3d 203 (5th Cir. 2001). Much has changed in Second Amendment jurisprudence since then, and so we consider whether § 922(g)(8) still passes muster under our contemporary framework. It does.

Separately, McGinnis argues his conviction should be vacated because his protective order does not track the requirements of § 922(g)(8). He also asserts the district court abused its discretion by imposing a written special condition of supervised release not orally pronounced at sentencing. We affirm the conviction but remand for the limited purpose of conforming McGinnis’s written judgment to the district court’s oral pronouncement.
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Because of this earlier case, Rahimi’s case wasn’t a foregone conclusion.

And then there was Bruen

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Friday Feedback

There are times when entering the LGS is a danger to your wallet. This happened to me.

I need reloading supplies, LGS has them, Blue-Haired Faerie gave me a gift certificate to LGS.

As I was going to LGS, I was considering if I needed anything. I decided that what I wanted to start looking for was something in 7.62×51 NATO or 30-06. I have one rifle in each of those. Two is one, one is none.

When I walk in, there on the wall is an older rifle. Looks to be from around the early ’50s. And it is in “.308”. I.e. 7.62×51. It looks very nice.

Turns out it is a CETME Sporter. Now, these rifles are not original. They were built on American made receivers from parts kits brought in from overseas. Regardless, it looks nice. It looks like sort of like an H&K G3A3. The front hand guard is different. The selector switch is the same. The magazine release is different, the rear sight is different.

But it has the same charging handle, and it still has the famous MP5 slap to drop the bolt carrier and bolt.

There is something really fun about that “slap”.

It followed me home… Along with 125 8 mm Mauser shell casings, ready for boxer primers. Oh, and some 156gr 0.357 bullets.

I did a test firing. A few things.

It is freaking loud. With ear protection on, it still made my ears ring. It is a double ear pro sort of gun.

The rifle sights don’t work well for me. I need to put a little white spot on the front post. I just can’t pick up the dark post inside the dark ring across the dark 100yard notched rear sight. It all just blended. And still, it hit target with ever press of the trigger.

It is extremely loud.

It was a boat load of fun to shoot. The felt recoil wasn’t bad. I could double tap my target without too much problem.

It is louder than expected.

It THROWS brass. The brass landed “over there” about 30 ft from where I was standing. I’ll have to go back with the metal detector to recover all the brass. It also had a wide spread.


What firearm(s) did you spot in a gun store or show that followed you home. Even though you were not intending on buying?


The last couple of case articles felt a little bit unbalanced to me. More of their words and less of mine. Do you prefer the “mostly their words” or do you prefer more analysis by me?

Have a great weekend, all of you.

How to hide the lead, 2nd Cir. and 3rd Cir.

Back in December 2022 in the case of Antonyuk v. Hochul the state didn’t like the District Court enjoining the New York State CCIA. New York’s Bruen spam response law.

Appellants request a stay pending appeal of the district court’s order dated November 7, 2022 (N.D.N.Y. 22-cv-986, doc. 78), enjoining Appellants from enforcing certain aspects of New York’s Concealed Carry Improvement Act (“CCIA”). Having weighed the applicable factors, see In re World Trade Ctr. Disaster Site Litig., 503 F.3d 167, 170 (2d Cir. 2007), we conclude that a stay pending appeal is warranted. Accordingly, upon due consideration, it is hereby ORDERED that the motion for a stay pending appeal is GRANTED and the district court’s November 7 order is STAYED pending the resolution of this appeal. To the extent that the district court’s order bars enforcement of the CCIA’s provisions related to persons who have been tasked with the duty to keep the peace at places of worship, airports, and private buses, such categories are EXCEPTED
from this order. Appellees’ motion to expedite the resolution of the matter is GRANTED.
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This is the entirety of the order granting the stay. This was in response to 180+ pages that the District Court wrote explaining why the CCIA was a crap law and that the state was likely to lose on the merits.

The entire explanation exists somewhere on page 170 of a 2007 2nd Cir. Opinion.

Digging down the rabbit hole, we find:

The four factors to be considered in issuing a stay pending appeal are well known: “(1) whether the stay applicant has made a strong showing that he is likely to succeed on the merits;[1] (2) whether the applicant will be irreparably injured absent a stay; (3) whether issuance of the stay will substantially injure the other parties interested in the proceeding; and (4) where the public interest lies.” Hilton v. Braunskill, 481 U.S. 770, 776, 107 S. Ct. 2113, 95 L. Ed. 2d 724 (1987); see Cooper v. Town of East Hampton, 83 F.3d 31, 36 (2d Cir.1996). We have applied these same factors in considering whether to vacate a stay. See Mohammed v. Reno, 309 F.3d 95, 100 (2d Cir.2002). We have also noted that the degree to which a factor must be present varies with the strength of the other factors, meaning that “`more of one [factor] excuses less of the other.'” Thapa v. Gonzales, 460 F.3d 323, 334 (2d Cir.2006) (quoting Mohammed, 309 F.3d at 101).

Having heard the interlocutory appeal after full briefing, we are in a position to evaluate the Appellants’ probability of success in a more focused way than could the motions panel. Although we are not prepared at this time to resolve all of the many issues arising on the merits of the appeal, we can conclude that there is now a lesser probability than might have previously appeared that the Appellants will succeed in preventing at least some of the Plaintiffs’ claims to proceed into at least the discovery stage of the litigation.

The second factor — irreparable injury to the stay applicants — remains the same as before: any proceedings in the District Court pending appeal will irreparably impair, at least to some extent, their alleged claim to immunity from suit. The third factor substantial injury to the parties opposing the stay has increased in significance with the passage of time since among the Plaintiffs are many people with life-threatening injuries, some of whom have died since the litigation began.

This effect of the passage of time upon the Plaintiffs’ interests also has a bearing on the public interest, which is to be considered as the fourth factor, although there are public interest considerations on both sides. On the one hand, there is a public interest in having any of the Plaintiffs who might be entitled to recovery receive compensation while still living and able to use it to cover medical costs and improve the quality of their lives. On the other hand, there is a public interest in vindicating the immunity of any of the Defendants who might be entitled to immunity from suit. At this point, we cannot predict whether any Plaintiffs will ultimately obtain compensation if immunity from suit is not available to the Defendants, nor are we prepared to adjudicate the jurisdictional challenges and immunity claims without a thorough consideration of the substantial issues presented to us. Nevertheless, a decision whether to maintain the stay must be made. On balance, we conclude that the public interest favors permitting pretrial proceedings to resume, *171 thereby hastening the trial that might result in compensation for at least some Plaintiffs during their lifetimes, even though that course will impose upon the Defendants the burdens of pretrial discovery, thereby denying them immunity from suit during the interval from now until such time as it might ultimately be determined that their claims for immunity from suit are valid.
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The first paragraph in the quote is the standard reasons for why an injunction is granted because that is the same reason for a stay to be granted stopping an injunction.

we can conclude that there is now a lesser probability than might have previously appeared[xCite item=”7MS22MGU” pos=2] That wording, applied to the Antonyuk reads like “we know better than the District Court because we said so.”

It also seems to say that the question of irreparable injury fails. While we know that any constitutional right denied is an irreparable injury, the courts have often balanced the Second Amendment injury away. In the Court’s mind, it is better for a gun owner to be denied their rights than to have the state’s legislation enjoined.

Finally, it seems to say that a delay is not really a problem because “PEOPLE WILL DIE IF THIS LAW ISN’T ALLOWED TO STAY IN PLACE!!!”

The point being, that we had to dig into a different opinion and need to guess at what the 2nd Circuit Court’s reasoning is. Because we are guessing, it is much more difficult to say “you are wrong” when taken up by the Supreme Court.

In addition, in the cited case, World Trade Center Disaster Site Litigation, the 2nd Circuit did not actually cite to the Supreme Court. All of their citations, in the quoted work, are back to themselves. Or, as my mother said on more than one occasion, “If I’ve told you once, I’ve told you a thousand times.” That doesn’t mean her reasoning was any better this time than it was in the previous 999 times.

If we needed to know more about the reasoning, we would have to go read those other opinions.

We see the same sort of general waving of hands in Koons v. Platkin. The Court’s entire reasoning is expressed as as we conclude the applicable factors warrant such a stay, see In re Revel AC, Inc., 802 F.3d 558, 568 (3d Cir. 2015)[xCite item=”CDUFQ46W” pos=3]. We have to look at the cited opinion and then guess at what words out of that page were being used to justify this stay.

The Sliding-Scale Approach to Balancing the Stay Factors

Under Federal Rule of Bankruptcy Procedure 8007, a party can move to stay the effect of a bankruptcy court order pending a resolution on appeal. See Fed. R. Bankr.P. 8007. The factors considered “overlap” the familiar ones courts look to in ruling on applications for preliminary injunctions. See Nken v. Holder, 556 U.S. 418, 434, 129 S.Ct. 1749, 173 L.Ed.2d 550 (2009) (observing that “similar concerns arise whenever a court order may allow or disallow anticipated action before the legality of that action has been conclusively determined”). To repeat essentially what was already noted above, the following factors come into play:

  1. whether the stay applicant has made a strong showing that [it] is likely to succeed on the merits;
  2. whether the applicant will be irreparably injured absent a stay;
  3. whether issuance of the stay will substantially injure the other parties interested in the proceeding; and
  4. where the public interest lies.

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We see the same language as the 2nd Circuit Court used, that’s because it is common across all jurisdictions. Guessing makes me think that where the public interest lies might hold more weight with the Court.

Hilton v. Braunskill, 481 U.S. 770, 776, 107 S.Ct. 2113, 95 L.Ed.2d 724 (1987). In order not to ignore the many gray shadings stay requests present, courts “balance[e] them all” and “consider the relative strength of the four factors.” Brady v. Nat’l Football League, 640 F.3d 785, 789 (8th Cir.2011) (quoting Fargo Women’s Health Org. v. Schafer, 18 F.3d 526, 538 (8th Cir.1994) (internal quotation marks omitted)); see also 16A Charles Alan Wright et al., Federal Practice and Procedure § 3954 (4th ed. 2008) (“The four factors should be balanced; thus, for example, if the balance of harms tips heavily enough in the stay applicant’s favor then the showing of likelihood of success need not be as strong, and vice versa.” (footnotes omitted)).
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Here, the 3rd Circuit brings up “balance” multiple times. This almost always results in the court balancing rights away.

“[T]he most critical” factors, according to the Supreme Court, Nken, 556 U.S. at 434, 129 S.Ct. 1749, are the first two: whether the stay movant has demonstrated (1) a strong showing of the likelihood of success and (2) that it will suffer irreparable harm — the latter referring to “harm that cannot be prevented or fully rectified” by a successful appeal, Roland Mach. Co. v. Dresser Indus., 749 F.2d 380, 386 (7th Cir.1984) (Posner, J.). Though both are necessary, the former is arguably the more important piece of the stay analysis. As Judge Posner has remarked, it isn’t enough that the failure to obtain a stay will be “a disaster” for the stay movant but only a “minor inconvenience to the defendant,” as “[e]quity jurisdiction exists only to remedy legal wrongs; [thus,] without some showing of a probable right[,] there is no basis for invoking it.” Id. at 387.
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As I dig through this litigation, I find that concerns that we have about Second Amendment Rights are echoed by other groups, and we see the same sorts of things happening. I don’t know anything about the case cited here. What I find interesting is that the Court pulled a small amount of text from a Supreme Court Opinion, Nken but then turned to the 7th Circuit Court to find an interpretation of those words that this Court approves of.

It appears that the Court is saying that winning on the merits is more important than the harm being caused to either party. That sounds good…

And finally, For our Court, a sufficient degree of success for a strong showing exists if there is “a reasonable chance, or probability, of winning.” Thus, while it “is not enough that the chance of success on the merits be `better than negligible,'”, the likelihood of winning on appeal need not be “more likely than not,”[xCite item=”IGVYV9A3″ p=”568,569″ pos=7] internal citations omitted.

The Third Circuit Court doesn’t think there is a high enough probability of the plaintiffs winning to allow the injunction to remain in place. They believe that the sensitive places language of Chapter 131 will be found constitutional.
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