How to hide the lead, 2nd Cir. and 3rd Cir.

Back in December 2022 in the case of Antonyuk v. Hochul the state didn’t like the District Court enjoining the New York State CCIA. New York’s Bruen spam response law.

Appellants request a stay pending appeal of the district court’s order dated November 7, 2022 (N.D.N.Y. 22-cv-986, doc. 78), enjoining Appellants from enforcing certain aspects of New York’s Concealed Carry Improvement Act (“CCIA”). Having weighed the applicable factors, see In re World Trade Ctr. Disaster Site Litig., 503 F.3d 167, 170 (2d Cir. 2007), we conclude that a stay pending appeal is warranted. Accordingly, upon due consideration, it is hereby ORDERED that the motion for a stay pending appeal is GRANTED and the district court’s November 7 order is STAYED pending the resolution of this appeal. To the extent that the district court’s order bars enforcement of the CCIA’s provisions related to persons who have been tasked with the duty to keep the peace at places of worship, airports, and private buses, such categories are EXCEPTED
from this order. Appellees’ motion to expedite the resolution of the matter is GRANTED.
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This is the entirety of the order granting the stay. This was in response to 180+ pages that the District Court wrote explaining why the CCIA was a crap law and that the state was likely to lose on the merits.

The entire explanation exists somewhere on page 170 of a 2007 2nd Cir. Opinion.

Digging down the rabbit hole, we find:

The four factors to be considered in issuing a stay pending appeal are well known: “(1) whether the stay applicant has made a strong showing that he is likely to succeed on the merits;[1] (2) whether the applicant will be irreparably injured absent a stay; (3) whether issuance of the stay will substantially injure the other parties interested in the proceeding; and (4) where the public interest lies.” Hilton v. Braunskill, 481 U.S. 770, 776, 107 S. Ct. 2113, 95 L. Ed. 2d 724 (1987); see Cooper v. Town of East Hampton, 83 F.3d 31, 36 (2d Cir.1996). We have applied these same factors in considering whether to vacate a stay. See Mohammed v. Reno, 309 F.3d 95, 100 (2d Cir.2002). We have also noted that the degree to which a factor must be present varies with the strength of the other factors, meaning that “`more of one [factor] excuses less of the other.'” Thapa v. Gonzales, 460 F.3d 323, 334 (2d Cir.2006) (quoting Mohammed, 309 F.3d at 101).

Having heard the interlocutory appeal after full briefing, we are in a position to evaluate the Appellants’ probability of success in a more focused way than could the motions panel. Although we are not prepared at this time to resolve all of the many issues arising on the merits of the appeal, we can conclude that there is now a lesser probability than might have previously appeared that the Appellants will succeed in preventing at least some of the Plaintiffs’ claims to proceed into at least the discovery stage of the litigation.

The second factor — irreparable injury to the stay applicants — remains the same as before: any proceedings in the District Court pending appeal will irreparably impair, at least to some extent, their alleged claim to immunity from suit. The third factor substantial injury to the parties opposing the stay has increased in significance with the passage of time since among the Plaintiffs are many people with life-threatening injuries, some of whom have died since the litigation began.

This effect of the passage of time upon the Plaintiffs’ interests also has a bearing on the public interest, which is to be considered as the fourth factor, although there are public interest considerations on both sides. On the one hand, there is a public interest in having any of the Plaintiffs who might be entitled to recovery receive compensation while still living and able to use it to cover medical costs and improve the quality of their lives. On the other hand, there is a public interest in vindicating the immunity of any of the Defendants who might be entitled to immunity from suit. At this point, we cannot predict whether any Plaintiffs will ultimately obtain compensation if immunity from suit is not available to the Defendants, nor are we prepared to adjudicate the jurisdictional challenges and immunity claims without a thorough consideration of the substantial issues presented to us. Nevertheless, a decision whether to maintain the stay must be made. On balance, we conclude that the public interest favors permitting pretrial proceedings to resume, *171 thereby hastening the trial that might result in compensation for at least some Plaintiffs during their lifetimes, even though that course will impose upon the Defendants the burdens of pretrial discovery, thereby denying them immunity from suit during the interval from now until such time as it might ultimately be determined that their claims for immunity from suit are valid.
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The first paragraph in the quote is the standard reasons for why an injunction is granted because that is the same reason for a stay to be granted stopping an injunction.

we can conclude that there is now a lesser probability than might have previously appeared[xCite item=”7MS22MGU” pos=2] That wording, applied to the Antonyuk reads like “we know better than the District Court because we said so.”

It also seems to say that the question of irreparable injury fails. While we know that any constitutional right denied is an irreparable injury, the courts have often balanced the Second Amendment injury away. In the Court’s mind, it is better for a gun owner to be denied their rights than to have the state’s legislation enjoined.

Finally, it seems to say that a delay is not really a problem because “PEOPLE WILL DIE IF THIS LAW ISN’T ALLOWED TO STAY IN PLACE!!!”

The point being, that we had to dig into a different opinion and need to guess at what the 2nd Circuit Court’s reasoning is. Because we are guessing, it is much more difficult to say “you are wrong” when taken up by the Supreme Court.

In addition, in the cited case, World Trade Center Disaster Site Litigation, the 2nd Circuit did not actually cite to the Supreme Court. All of their citations, in the quoted work, are back to themselves. Or, as my mother said on more than one occasion, “If I’ve told you once, I’ve told you a thousand times.” That doesn’t mean her reasoning was any better this time than it was in the previous 999 times.

If we needed to know more about the reasoning, we would have to go read those other opinions.

We see the same sort of general waving of hands in Koons v. Platkin. The Court’s entire reasoning is expressed as as we conclude the applicable factors warrant such a stay, see In re Revel AC, Inc., 802 F.3d 558, 568 (3d Cir. 2015)[xCite item=”CDUFQ46W” pos=3]. We have to look at the cited opinion and then guess at what words out of that page were being used to justify this stay.

The Sliding-Scale Approach to Balancing the Stay Factors

Under Federal Rule of Bankruptcy Procedure 8007, a party can move to stay the effect of a bankruptcy court order pending a resolution on appeal. See Fed. R. Bankr.P. 8007. The factors considered “overlap” the familiar ones courts look to in ruling on applications for preliminary injunctions. See Nken v. Holder, 556 U.S. 418, 434, 129 S.Ct. 1749, 173 L.Ed.2d 550 (2009) (observing that “similar concerns arise whenever a court order may allow or disallow anticipated action before the legality of that action has been conclusively determined”). To repeat essentially what was already noted above, the following factors come into play:

  1. whether the stay applicant has made a strong showing that [it] is likely to succeed on the merits;
  2. whether the applicant will be irreparably injured absent a stay;
  3. whether issuance of the stay will substantially injure the other parties interested in the proceeding; and
  4. where the public interest lies.

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We see the same language as the 2nd Circuit Court used, that’s because it is common across all jurisdictions. Guessing makes me think that where the public interest lies might hold more weight with the Court.

Hilton v. Braunskill, 481 U.S. 770, 776, 107 S.Ct. 2113, 95 L.Ed.2d 724 (1987). In order not to ignore the many gray shadings stay requests present, courts “balance[e] them all” and “consider the relative strength of the four factors.” Brady v. Nat’l Football League, 640 F.3d 785, 789 (8th Cir.2011) (quoting Fargo Women’s Health Org. v. Schafer, 18 F.3d 526, 538 (8th Cir.1994) (internal quotation marks omitted)); see also 16A Charles Alan Wright et al., Federal Practice and Procedure § 3954 (4th ed. 2008) (“The four factors should be balanced; thus, for example, if the balance of harms tips heavily enough in the stay applicant’s favor then the showing of likelihood of success need not be as strong, and vice versa.” (footnotes omitted)).
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Here, the 3rd Circuit brings up “balance” multiple times. This almost always results in the court balancing rights away.

“[T]he most critical” factors, according to the Supreme Court, Nken, 556 U.S. at 434, 129 S.Ct. 1749, are the first two: whether the stay movant has demonstrated (1) a strong showing of the likelihood of success and (2) that it will suffer irreparable harm — the latter referring to “harm that cannot be prevented or fully rectified” by a successful appeal, Roland Mach. Co. v. Dresser Indus., 749 F.2d 380, 386 (7th Cir.1984) (Posner, J.). Though both are necessary, the former is arguably the more important piece of the stay analysis. As Judge Posner has remarked, it isn’t enough that the failure to obtain a stay will be “a disaster” for the stay movant but only a “minor inconvenience to the defendant,” as “[e]quity jurisdiction exists only to remedy legal wrongs; [thus,] without some showing of a probable right[,] there is no basis for invoking it.” Id. at 387.
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As I dig through this litigation, I find that concerns that we have about Second Amendment Rights are echoed by other groups, and we see the same sorts of things happening. I don’t know anything about the case cited here. What I find interesting is that the Court pulled a small amount of text from a Supreme Court Opinion, Nken but then turned to the 7th Circuit Court to find an interpretation of those words that this Court approves of.

It appears that the Court is saying that winning on the merits is more important than the harm being caused to either party. That sounds good…

And finally, For our Court, a sufficient degree of success for a strong showing exists if there is “a reasonable chance, or probability, of winning.” Thus, while it “is not enough that the chance of success on the merits be `better than negligible,'”, the likelihood of winning on appeal need not be “more likely than not,”[xCite item=”IGVYV9A3″ p=”568,569″ pos=7] internal citations omitted.

The Third Circuit Court doesn’t think there is a high enough probability of the plaintiffs winning to allow the injunction to remain in place. They believe that the sensitive places language of Chapter 131 will be found constitutional.
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Update on Ronald Koons v. Attorney General New Jersey (23-1900)

The Third Circuit Court of Appeals has ordered an expedited briefing schedule. The original order was Appellants’ opening brief and the joint appendix must be filed on or before July 7, 2023; Appellees’ briefs must be filed on or before August 4, 2023; Appellants’ reply brief, if any, must be filed on or before August 18, 2023. The Court intends to schedule the appeal for disposition during the week of September 11, 2023[xCite item=”2RXU7HR4″ pos=0 pos=0] The state asked to have it delayed, and the new briefing schedule is Appellants/Cross-Appellees and Intervenors shall file their opening briefs and the joint appendix on or before July 20, 2023; Appellees/Cross-Appellants shall file their opening/response brief on or before August 10, 2023; Appellees’ shall file their response brief on or before August 21, 2023; Appellants/Cross-Appellees and Intervenors shall file their response/reply briefs on or before September 4, 2023; and Appellees/Cross-Appellants shall file their reply brief on or before September 18, 2023[xCite item=”2RXU7HR4″ pos=1]

In the meantime, the Circuit court has stayed parts of the injunction: The requested stay is GRANTED as to the preliminary injunction of N.J. Stat. Ann. Section:Section: 2C:58-4.6(a)(6), (a)(9), (a)(10), (a)(12), (a)(15), (a)(17), (a)(18), (a)(21), as we conclude the applicable factors warrant such a stay[xCite item=”CDUFQ46W” pos=2]

What does that mean? It means that the following places are still “sensitive” places where carrying firearms is verboten.

  1. within 100 feet of a place where a public gathering, demonstration or event is held for which a government permit is required, during the conduct of such gathering, demonstration or event;
  2. a nursery school, pre-school, zoo, or summer camp;
  3. a park, beach, recreation facility or area or playground owned or controlled by a State, county or local government unit, or any part of such a place, which is designated as a gun-free zone by the governing authority based on considerations of public safety;
  4. a publicly owned or leased library or museum;
  5. a bar or restaurant where alcohol is served, and any other site or facility where alcohol is sold for consumption on the premises;
  6. a privately or publicly owned and operated entertainment facility within this State, including but not limited to a theater, stadium, museum, arena, racetrack or other place where performances, concerts, exhibits, games or contests are held;
  7. a casino and related facilities, including but not limited to appurtenant hotels, retail premises, restaurant and bar facilities, and entertainment and recreational venues located within the casino property;
  8. a health care facility, including but not limited to a general hospital, special hospital, psychiatric hospital, public health center, diagnostic center, treatment center, rehabilitation center, extended care facility, skilled nursing home, nursing home, intermediate care facility, tuberculosis hospital, chronic disease hospital, maternity hospital, outpatient clinic, dispensary, assisted living center, home health care agency, residential treatment facility, residential health care facility, medical office, or ambulatory care facility;

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Gun Safety Done Right

The other day, I analyzed an Amicus Curia brief by the “Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence”.

The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence (Brady) is a nonprofit organization dedicated to reducing gun violence through education, research, and legal advocacy. One of Brady’s primary goals is to encourage the implementation of safe designs, distribution, and sales of firearms to reduce gun deaths and injuries, and to protect the rights of governmental bodies to take strong, effective actions to prevent gun violence.
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Sounds good, but what have they done to actually advance “gun safety”? Their entire shtick is to take guns away from The People.

Compare that to this educational statement:

“Won’t happen to me.” is a piss-poor life strategy and I bet most of the victims (of their own idiocy) were participants of that train of thought. Do I even have to go again about not leaving the effing gun inside the car unsecured? Out of sight in the center console, glove compartment or under the seat are not secure methods to keep a firearm from being stolen from your vehicle. And if you are home, take the damned thing inside the house!

Oh yes! If you leave your car outside the house, LOCK THE DAMNED THING!
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In states that haven’t gone gun stupid, good things still happen.

BEXAR COUNTY, Texas – Just under 500 families registered to pick up free handgun safes and locks at Padre Park from the Bexar County Commissioners Court on Thursday.

The giveaway is part of the court’s GunSafety4Bexar initiative to promote responsible gun ownership, increase gun safety awareness, and enhance community safety.

“It’s one layer of protection that we can offer,” Monica Ramos, a Bexar County public information officer, said. “We’re hoping that through this program, people learn more about what it means to be responsible firearm and gun owner.”

In partnership with University Health, the initiative is working to prevent accidental discharges and unauthorized access to firearms, particularly by minors.
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While there are still four more giveaways scheduled for the rest of the summer, Ramos said all reservations are currently full.
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Not bad. The Bexar Country Commissioners Court purchased 3,800 portable handgun safes and 1,000 handgun cables for $140,000. The money came from the American Rescue Plan Act.
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Matthew Hoover’s Motion for Acquittal

B.L.U.F.Matthew Hoover and Kristopher Ervin thumbed their noses at the ATF, daring the ATF to do something. The ATF did, they arrested both of them for multiple counts of conspiracy to sell a “combination of parts” that would convert a gun into a machine gun. Both were found Guilty. They have not been sentenced yet. Having been found guilty, both are asking for the court to acquit them.


Hard cases make good law. There is so much tied up in this case that it is hard to dissect. This might be such a case.

History

Matthew Hoover was a YouTuber who created gun content. I had watched some of his videos, but his content wasn’t of significant interest to me. His content would be recommended to me from time to time. At some point, he started advertising the “Auto Key Card” and it was obvious that he was selling this card.

The “Auto Key Card” was a dimensionally correct etching on a stainless-steel card of a “lighting link.” A lighting link can convert an AR-15 style platform from semi-automatic to full-automatic, i.e. a machine gun.

But what does it do? It is both complicated and simple at the same time.


On the AR-15 platform, when you have charged the rifle, you have cocked the internal hammer. The hammer has a small notch in it called a sear.

When you press the trigger, the arm in front of the trigger rotates down. As it does, it clears the sear on the hammer. The hammer then moves forward to hit the firing pin and fire the weapon.

The bullet flies down the barrel, as it passes the gas port some of the gas is diverted into the gas tube. That gas flows back towards the receiver, where it acts on the bolt carrier to shove the bolt carrier towards the rear of the gun. The bolt carrier pulls the bolt out of the chamber. It also pushes the hammer back down.

This happens so fast that you do not have time to release the trigger. As the bolt carrier is shoved forward by the recoil spring, the hammer rides down the back of the bolt carrier and may or may not drive the firing pin into the next round, firing git.

The disconnector interrupts this process. The hook at the front of the disconnector catches the hook on the back inside the hammer and keeps the hammer from following the bolt forward.

When the trigger is released, the nose comes up and is ready to catch the hammer. As the trigger is released more, the disconnector is pulled back out of the hook on the hammer and the hammer starts forward, only to be stopped as the sear catches on the nose of the trigger.

We are now ready for the next trigger press.

In a full auto AR-15 platform, we add one more piece and modify some of the other pieces. The first piece of interest is the selector switch. This will push down on the back of the disconnector, so its hook will never catch the hammer hook. If this was all that was happening, the hammer would ride the bolt carrier back down and the firearm might slam fire. But this is not controlled and might not actually happen.

What we want to have happen is for the hammer to stay back until the bolt is in battery and then for the hammer to fall, picking up speed, until it strikes the back of the firing pin. This is where the auto sear comes into play.

When the bolt carrier to the rear, the hammer is down and the auto sear is rotated such that it catches the hook on the back of the hammer. This holds the hammer down as the bolt carrier moves forward, driving the bolt into battery. As this happens, the back of the bolt carrier catches the rear of the auto sear and rotates it. This releases the hammer, allowing the gun to fire a second time.

The thing that makes an AR-15 receiver a “machine gun” is the little hole for the auto sear pivot pin. Without that hole and the auto sear, it is not a machine gun.

Before 1986, people were manufacturing “drop in auto sear” This was a block of milled steel with the auto sear and pivot pin integral to the unit. When put into a receiver with a correctly milled shelf for the auto sear and when the rest of the fire control group had the right type of disconnector, trigger, selector switch, and hammer, the drop in auto sear worked just like a normal auto sear.

If that little chuck of metal was properly serialized and registered before 1986, it is legally a machine gun. They sell for thousands of dollars.

A cheap version of the drop in auto sear was the “lighting link”. This was a much simpler device made from a couple of pieces of thin stamped metal. It performed the same function. Unfortunately, it wasn’t very reliable. They had to be carefully tuned to fit a particular receiver and even then, it couldn’t be trusted the same way a real M-16 and drop in auto-sears could.

Dimensional draws of the lighting link are available on the internet and in some old tyme books.

All of this brings us back to the Auto Key Card. The Auto Key Card is a dimensional drawing of a lighting link. The card is made from stainless-steel and is laser etched. That is all it is.

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Journalisming?

There are days when your socks are knocked off. Is it accidental journalisming or is this common place for them?

It is even more confusing when the call sign is “KPQ”. For those that don’t know, radio call signs start with “W” east of the Mississippi and with a “K” to the west. Generally a “K” call sign translates to “Oh My God, they said what!”

Can You Legally Carry A Firearm In Public In Washington?[xCite item=”V2S5Z6X4″ pos=0] I’m cringing already.

The 2nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution guarantees the right of American citizens to keep and bear arms. There are federal gun laws but gun control policy can vary widely from state to state.

The most vigorous debate over gun control has involved so-called “assault-style rifles”. in recent years. Important changes at the state level have impacted the right to carry firearms in public places.
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Where’s the catch?

Open carry of firearms is generally defined as carrying a firearm that is either partially or fully visible.

In Washington, open carry is allowed for both long guns and handguns.
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Come on, where is the zinger? Where is the slam of conservatives and gun owners? What’s WRONG with you?

That’s the extent of their reporting. Clean, clear, short. The rest of the article is a table of states and the legal state of open and concealed carry in those states. Nothing untoward.

Feel free to give them a click and positive feedback.

A small warning. When a state has open carry but concealed is permitted, shitty cops will sometimes claim that having any part of your arm covered is actually “concealed”. That means that if you are wearing an OWB holster and your shirt tail covers a part of the grip, you could be charged with concealed carry without a permit.

In the same way, but reverse, some cops will claim that if your concealed firearm prints or is observed it is “open carry”. If the stated doesn’t allow open carry you are in for a bad day.
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Friday Feedback

Another week gone bye-bye.

There are so many cases percolating right now, I’m just waiting to see which opinion drops next.

Hagar should be posting more often.

And on the fun side of things, these just showed up in my mail. If you’d like some, please let me know, and we’ll figure out costs and some way for you to purchase them.

Kolbe v. Hogan 4th Cir (2017)

B.L.U.F. Does bad law live on? What happens to all the opinions issued by circuit courts on Second Amendment cases before Bruen.


On June 23, 2022, a year ago, the Supreme Court issued the Bruen decision. The Bruen reaffirmed Heller. The Second Amendment is an individual right, it is not a second class right. The way to properly adjudicate a Second Amendment challenge is we hold that when the Second Amendment’s plain text covers an individual’s conduct, the Constitution presumptively protects that conduct. To justify its regulation, the government may not simply posit that the regulation promotes an important interest. Rather, the government must demonstrate that the regulation is consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition of firearm regulation.[xCite item=”75DAVPP7″ sec=2 para=1 pos=0] This fantastic opinion opened the gates to regaining our Second Amendment protect rights.

The court then proceeded to GVR four other Second Amendment cases. One of those cases was in the 4th Circuit Court.

The Forth Circuit Court has not found an infringement that they couldn’t find a reason to find constitutional. They are horrible on Second Amendment rights. While the Ninth Circuit gets all the news, the Fourth is actually worse.

Affirmed by published opinion. Judge King wrote the opinion for the en banc majority, in which Chief Judge Gregory and Judges Wilkinson, Motz, Keenan, Wynn, Floyd, Thacker, and Harris joined in full; Judge Diaz joined in part as to the Second Amendment claims and joined as to the Fourteenth Amendment equal protection and due process claims; and Judges Niemeyer, Shedd, and Agee joined as to the Fourteenth Amendment claims only. Judge Wilkinson wrote a concurring opinion, in which Judge Wynn joined. Judge Diaz wrote an opinion concurring in part and concurring in the judgment as to the Second Amendment claims. Judge Traxler wrote a dissenting opinion as to the Second Amendment claims, in which Judges Niemeyer, Shedd, and Agee joined. Judge Traxler also wrote an opinion dissenting as to the Fourteenth Amendment equal protection claim and concurring in the judgment as to the Fourteenth Amendment due process claim.
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There are fourteen judges on the panel. Only one of them found that there was a constitutionally protected right to keep and bear modern semi-automatic rifles. Thank you, Judge Traxler.

Why is this case important?

The United States jurisprudence is based on common law. Once a law is passed, it is up to the courts to apply that law in a common way across all instances. Since the laws as written often have edge cases or might just be poorly written, the courts are required to say what happens in those edge cases or badly worded situations.

Consider the following. A government employee is granted a security clearance. They gain access to some classified material. Because they are pressured to complete some work regarding that classified material, they copy that material on to a thumb drive and take it home with them.

At home, they copy the documents on to their home server, stored in the spare bedroom. At a later time, they leave government employment. In the process of debriefing, they mention that they had a copy of a paper on their computer that they would remove.

They have just admitted to a crime. There is an investigation and they go to jail.

Any government employee who did a similar action, take classified material out of a secure location and put it on an insecure home server, would be guilty of the same crime and would be punished in the same way.

Common law is what makes this possible. Every court in the land has access to the law, as written, to the court cases involving that law, and what the holdings were for each of those cases. The courts then apply the law in a common way across all people.

This is true of the G.S.-5 who was charged with editing her bosses classified memo as to the S.E.S. former Secretary of State. The law is applied in a common way across everybody.

Kolbe is one of the fundamental pieces of case law that controls how Second Amendment challenges are adjudicated within the 4th Circuit Court. It is also used in other Circuits, though it is not binding on other circuits. Many cases on the East Coast were resolved based on Kolbe.

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O.F.F. et al. v. Brown — Update and analysis

B.L.U.F. Trial is held, state asks for a Judgement


Recent History

On June 1, 2023, the judge revised his order and granted the defendants (bad guys) motion to dismiss as-applied challenges to Ballot Measure 114. The state argued, and the court found persuasive, that since the permitting provisions are not implemented yet, there is no violation. The plaintiffs (good guys) are allowed to refile once the permitting provisions are actually implemented.

There are two types of challenges, “as-applied” and “facial”

A facial challenge contends that a government law, rule, regulation, or policy is unconstitutional as written — that is, on its face. This challenge differs from an as-applied challenge in that it invalidates a law for everyone — not just as that law is applied to the particular litigant challenging it.
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The Court’s order says that there is no violation of the plaintiffs’ rights because nothing has happened. To use a different type of example, consider a suspect that is being interviewed regarding a crime. He asks for a lawyer, but the cops keep asking him questions.

There is no constitutionality issue regarding the police interviewing suspects. If the suspect challenges that there is a constitutional issue, it is only his rights that were violated, not yours, not mine. This would be an “as-applied” case.

As-applied cases normally do not have far-reaching implications. On the other hand, sometimes they do: [xCite item=”UU9V7QTU” pos=1]

The other side of the coin is the “facial” challenge. In a facial challenge, the entire law or regulation can be found to be unconstitutional. This is one of the issues the government is arguing in [xCite item=”WXV5GAKV” pos=2]. Rahimi was convicted for being a prohibited person in possession of a firearm. He had a domestic violence restraining order against him, which made him a prohibited person.

Rahimi’s lawyers made a facial challenge against [xCite item=”JIK6PBFL” sec=”g” pos=3]. The 5th Cir. found for Rahimi. The state would like this to be an “as-applied” because that would mean it the ruling doesn’t extend to anybody else.

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Tuesday Tunes

Today’s tune is brought to you by the Blue Haired Faerie. She of the M3 grease gun.

The current younger generation spirit. Even with the issues in the world, in people’s lives. “We are young” and “we can glow brighter than the sun” it’s just kind of hopeful in a way, it has got a good contrast between the bad and the good.

It’s also just one of my favorite songs from grade school.

It makes me happy.
— The Blue Haired Faerie

Brady Amicus Curiae Brief Renna v. Bonta (9th Cir.)

B.L.U.F. The argument from the mouths of the oldest group dedicated to removing your right to keep and bear arms.


The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence (Brady) is a nonprofit organization dedicated to reducing gun violence through education, research, and legal advocacy. One of Brady’s primary goals is to encourage the implementation of safe designs, distribution, and sales of firearms to reduce gun deaths and injuries, and to protect the rights of governmental bodies to take strong, effective actions to prevent gun violence.
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I agree, they do research. It is not clear if that research is good, nor is it clear that the research is unbiased, nor is it clear that they present their research in a balanced manner. I have yet to see a single bit of educational work from Brady that wasn’t about removing firearms from The People.

They do seem to do a whole hell of a lot of legal advocacy. All of it anti-gun, anti-gun rights, anti freedom.

The thing you should take notice of is …and to protect the rights of governmental bodies to…. The government has no rights. You have rights. The states have rights regarding the federal government. The government does not have “rights”. They are allowed certain enumerated powers.

…Both CLIs and MDMs are commonsense safety features that help prevent unintentional discharges of a firearm. The district court erred in preliminarily enjoining California’s requirement that new semi-automatic pistols manufactured or sold in the State contain those features.
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The horrible thing about “commonsense” is that so few people have it. Bubble wrap helps prevent damage. Therefore, it is “commonsense” to wrap everything valuable in bubble wrap? Brady always argues from the point of “just a small inconvenience to get what could be a huge improvement in safety”

The wonderful thing about an opinion running to dozens of pages is that somewhere in all of that verbiage, the opponents of freedom will find a phrase or short grouping of words to turn the entire opinion upside down. Here we find that a small carve out for the NFA being used to justify just about anything, and a short passage in a concurring opinion being used to justify the UHA.

The Supreme Court has soundly rejected the idea that the Second Amendment protects an unfettered right to access “any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.” Bruen, 142 S. Ct. at 2128 (quoting Heller, 554 U.S. at 626). Safety regulations applicable to gun manufacturers and sellers are permissible “laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.” Id. at 2162 (Kavanaugh, J., concurring) (quoting Heller, 554 U.S. at 626-27).
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There are subtle changes in wording that are designed to support that swap: whether the provision at issue regulates conduct[xCite item=”Z34FV5HB” p=”3″ pos=3].

Their Argument

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